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“I think I think they both get to a trillion in revenues uh by 2030 and it's probably going to be fairly similar in my opinion for what that's worth.”
Thesis at the time
MixedThe speakers acknowledge shareholder frustration over Tesla's handling of the robotaxi rollout, a poorly managed earnings call, and the fact that lucrative data-center business went to SpaceX/xAI instead of Tesla. Despite these near-term execution concerns, they remain longer-term optimistic, projecting Tesla could reach roughly a trillion dollars in revenue by 2030, similar to SpaceX.
Key arguments
- The Q2 earnings call was poorly managed and caused one of the biggest stock drops of any major company this year.
- Robotaxi rollout is limited by real execution issues (long wait times, looping) and regulatory approval gaps in Europe, California, Arizona, and Florida.
- Tesla should have gotten a bigger share of the AI data center business that instead went to SpaceX/xAI.
- SpaceX's revenue trajectory looks clearer and stronger short-term than Tesla's due to compute demand insatiability, while Tesla's story is more qualitative for the next year.
- Long-term, Tesla and SpaceX could both approach a trillion dollars in revenue by 2030, with robotaxi and Optimus revenue ramping meaningfully only in following years.
Counter-arguments acknowledged
- Tesla lacks full regulatory approval for robotaxi expansion in key markets like California, Arizona, and Florida.
- Current robotaxi issue rates make a 10x scale-up premature until reliability issues are resolved.
- The earnings call created confusion in the market about Tesla's autonomy timeline and expectations.
Hedges and caveats (from the video)
- Hosts acknowledge they 'don't know the utilization rates' of data centers
- Discussion is speculative about Elon's motivations and future merger plans
- No specific price targets or directional calls made on either company
- Hosts present multiple perspectives rather than definitive predictions
The call
- Date said
- Aug 12, 2026
- Timeframe
- by 2030
- Deadline
- Dec 31, 2030
- Confidence
- medium
- Specificity
- specific
How it resolved
- Status
- unverifiable
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
Full rules: docs/resolution-spec.md.
Confidence Reasoning
Speaker states this as his own opinion with a specific year, but hedges with 'in my opinion' and acknowledges variables are wide, limiting certainty.
Source
Addressing Angry Tesla Shareholders
Said on Aug 12, 2026Open on YouTube ↗