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“I don't think it's all baked in. I think some of it is baked in.”
Thesis at the time
BullishThe host and guest discuss a wave of institutional attention (Chris Camillo, Morgan Stanley, Oppenheimer, JP Morgan) framing Tesla's robotaxi ramp as the proof point that could validate its much larger Optimus/physical AI ambitions. They highlight a deepening Tesla-SpaceX compute and infrastructure alliance and reports of Chinese supplier audits as signs Optimus production is nearing reality, while acknowledging skepticism around Tesla's history of missed timelines.
Key arguments
- Robotaxi execution at scale would serve as a proof point that Tesla can also pull off Optimus, a market described as far larger than robotaxi
- Reports of Chinese supplier factory audits for Optimus-related components suggest production ramp is progressing beyond rumor
- The deepening Tesla-SpaceX alliance creates a two-way value exchange in compute, connectivity, energy, and data that analysts see as a blueprint for physical AI
- Tesla is designing for massive manufacturing scale (millions of units per year) versus competitors' much smaller factories, which the guest argues explains longer timelines but bigger eventual payoff
Counter-arguments acknowledged
- Oppenheimer believes Optimus is likely facing further ramp delays
- Elon Musk's prior production timeline commitments (June/July/August) have already been missed, damaging credibility
- Not all of the robotaxi/Optimus optimism is priced into the stock yet, but some of it already is
Hedges and caveats (from the video)
- Tesla has a history of missed expectations over the last several years
- Optimus production timelines remain uncertain and subject to ramp delays
- Oppenheimer believes Optimus faces further ramp delays despite progress
- China's Optimus production audits are described as rumors that need verification
- Success is contingent on Tesla actually executing on robotaxi deployment at scale
- Valuation projections (10-20 trillion) are theoretical and speculative
The call
- Date said
- Sep 22, 2026
- Price at prediction
- $375.30
- Confidence
- medium
- Specificity
- vague
How it resolved
- Status
- unverifiable
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
Full rules: docs/resolution-spec.md.
Confidence Reasoning
Clear directional view that further upside remains unpriced, but no specific target or timeframe given, and hedged language ('I think') tempers conviction.
Source
Wall Street Just Found Tesla’s NEXT Big Market
Said on Sep 22, 2026Open on YouTube ↗