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SPYBearhit
Mark SpiegelMark Spiegel

Target Price

$2,600

if you look at uh Gap earnings for the quarter that's just getting reported uh Q4 and you annualize them and you put a 16 multiple on them which is pretty freaking reasonable for uh you know five percent rate declining earnings Market which environment which we're in that puts the s p like in the 2600s@ 51:10 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗

Thesis at the time

Strongly Bearish

Mark Spiegel expects the S&P 500 to crash by more than 30% in the next 12-18 months as the recession worsens. He believes the recent rally is just a bear market rally that will fail, driven by temporary liquidity from debt ceiling issues and oversold conditions.

Key arguments

  • Biggest asset bubble in history built on decade of zero rates and QE now being reversed
  • Fed raising rates to 5% with QT of $90B/month while ECB will also do QT
  • Hot economic data (CPI, retail sales, PPI) means Fed will stay higher for longer
  • S&P trading at high multiples on declining earnings in 5% rate environment

Counter-arguments acknowledged

  • Bear market rallies are normal and can be substantial (40-50% in past cycles)
  • Temporary liquidity from debt ceiling and Japan QE provided fuel for recent rally

Hedges and caveats (from the video)

  • Spiegel acknowledges uncertainty about the exact composition of the rally (short squeeze vs. underinvestment)
  • Historical precedent cited: NASDAQ had multiple rallies of 30-50% during the 2000 tech bubble collapse, suggesting current rally is not unusual
  • Spiegel's fund is positioned short (Tesla and SPY), creating potential bias in bearish outlook
  • Interview recorded February 16, 2023 - predictions are time-sensitive

The call

Date said
Feb 17, 2023
Timeframe
next year to 18 months
Deadline
Aug 17, 2024
Price at prediction
$408.28
Confidence
high
Specificity
specific

How it resolved

Status
hit
Resolution price
$407.26
Return
+0.3%
Notes
Target ≤$2600 reached on 2023-02-17. Price: $407.26. Return: +0.2%.
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
Reference price
$408.28 (anchored at quote date)
Target used
$2,600
Deadline source
Explicit (extracted from quote)
Effective: Aug 17, 2024
Age at resolution
0.0 months(from publish date)
Resolution snapshot
$407.26 on Feb 17, 2023

Rule that fired

Target ≤$2600 reached on 2023-02-17. Price: $407.26. Return: +0.2%.

Full rules: docs/resolution-spec.md.

Confidence Reasoning

Very specific target based on earnings analysis, strong conviction language, large short position