
Mark Spiegel
PersonHit Rate
25%
1 hits, 3 misses
Total Predictions
27
Avg Return
+10.3%
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16
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Theses over time (19)
Grouped by ticker, most-recent thesis first. Reads as the evolution of Mark Spiegel's view on each asset — earlier entries show where they started, later ones show where they landed.
TSLA14 narratives
Strongly BearishIs Mark Spiegel the greatest investment guru of our time? YOU decide!! [Tesla Shorts 024]Mar 6, 2023
Mark Spiegel views Tesla as absurdly overvalued at 70 times earnings, arguing the company is losing its technological edge to competitors with better charging speeds and interiors. He believes Tesla's recent massive price cuts will significantly reduce profit margins and that the company faces increasing competition from Chinese automakers and traditional manufacturers like GM.
Strongly BearishDecade Long Asset Bubble to Burst? with Mark SpiegelMar 1, 2023
Mark Spiegel views Tesla as absurdly overvalued at 70x earnings, arguing the company has trailing-edge technology, faces intense competition, and has had to slash prices significantly which will crush margins. He sees the stock as worth only $17-18 per share based on comparison to BMW's valuation.
Strongly BearishMark Spiegel: Bear Market Rally Almost Over? S&P 500 To Fall By Over 30% In Next 18 Months?Feb 17, 2023
Spiegel views Tesla as no longer a growth company but a commodity auto producer that slashed prices and profits in half. He expects Tesla to fall to low double digits as competition destroys margins and the growth story is completely busted.
Strongly BearishThe Stock Market Is Stupidly Overvalued | Mark SpiegelFeb 9, 2023
Spiegel views Tesla as massively overvalued compared to traditional automakers like BMW. He believes Tesla should be valued similarly to BMW at around $18-19 per share, representing roughly 90% downside from current levels. He sees Tesla as having aged product lines and facing increasing competition from established automakers.
Strongly BearishTesla Meltup With Motorhead and Mark SpiegelJan 28, 2023
Tesla is transitioning from a growth stock to just another car company facing massive margin compression from price cuts and increasing competition. The company will likely see 2023 earnings decline 30%+ from 2022 levels due to 12-15% average price cuts while production only increases 3-5%, eliminating any operating leverage benefits.
3 predictions from this thesis
- Bearunverifiable“Tesla will be lucky to earn three dollars a share Gap this year I'm pretty sure it's going to be in the two handles”
- Bearunverifiable“I also have no doubt that Tesla Gap earnings this year 2023 will be at least 30 percent lower than 2022's earnings”
- Bearexpired$20“fundamentally this stock is worth less than twenty dollars a share and by the way at fifteen dollars at twenty dollars a share it would still have a 60 something billion dollar market cap which is probably absurd”
Strongly BearishMark Spiegel: Elon Musk is ‘a pathological liar’Jan 8, 2023
Tesla is fundamentally overvalued with no meaningful competitive advantages as traditional automakers flood the EV market with subsidized, high-quality alternatives. The company lacks manufacturing expertise and is led by what the speaker calls 'a pathological liar' who has committed securities fraud.
Strongly BearishTesla bear Mark Spiegel of Stanphyl Capital rips into Musk, ARK's Cathie Wood and Fed's Jay PowellAug 25, 2021
Tesla is massively overvalued at a $700 billion market cap, trading at approximately 35 times the valuation per car sold compared to Volkswagen Group. The company will struggle once other automakers flood the EV market, as Tesla won't be able to subsidize EV losses with profitable ICE vehicles like traditional automakers can.
Strongly BullishTesla Short Sellers Gordon Johnson and Mark Spiegel Take Aim at Elon MuskJul 9, 2020
The YouTuber strongly defends Tesla against short sellers, arguing that Tesla is becoming profitable with leverage after reaching break-even, has strong delivery growth despite pandemic disruptions, and will benefit from the Model Y launch and China factory production. They believe Tesla will achieve record deliveries and profits in Q3/Q4 2020.
2 predictions from this thesis
- Bullunverifiable“it looks like towards the second half of the year it's possible Tesla starts to look cheap again even at $1400 per share”
- Bullunverifiable“I think when Tesla reports the current quarterly results they will likely be profitable for this quarter and for the last four quarters so spiegel statement here won't age very well starting in about two weeks then by the end of the year I think Tesla will be quite profitable”
Strongly BearishMAS Ep. 30: A vocal Tesla critic on why it’s only going to get worse…Jan 21, 2019
Q3 2018 will be Tesla's peak quarter: the long-range rear-wheel-drive Model 3 backlog is running out within the first month of Q4, the promised $35K Model 3 won't exist at that price (best case $40K with mandatory premium package, gross margin collapses as tax credits expire), and luxury-EV competition (Jaguar I-Pace, Audi e-tron, Kia/Hyundai crossovers) is hitting showrooms at or below Tesla's ASPs. Under any car-company multiple, the debt wall of ~$10B leaves zero equity value. Musk can't abide by the SEC agreement and will detonate further. Goes broke quickly (can't refinance) or slowly (busted growth story, auto-maker multiple).
Strongly BearishWhitney Tilson & Mark Spiegel discuss Tesla, Kase Learning seminar, 9/27/18Sep 28, 2018
The SEC just filed fraud charges against Musk over the $420 take-private tweet, no investment bank will raise capital for Tesla given billions in civil-lawsuit liability, Model 3 is a lemon with reliability 4x worse than the next-worst car, and the whole company is dependent on free money in a rising-rate environment. Death-spiral puts at $150 and $100, June 2020 $200 puts, and short common make up the position. Odds of bankruptcy filing in the next year: 80%+.
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SPY3 narratives
BearishMark Spiegel from Stanphyl CapitalOct 15, 2025
Mark Spiegel views the current market as either very expensive or in a bubble, with no debate about it being cheap. He advocates for cash positions and maintains short positions in SPY due to fundamental overvaluation concerns.
1 prediction from this thesis
Strongly BearishMark Spiegel: Bear Market Rally Almost Over? S&P 500 To Fall By Over 30% In Next 18 Months?Feb 17, 2023
Mark Spiegel expects the S&P 500 to crash by more than 30% in the next 12-18 months as the recession worsens. He believes the recent rally is just a bear market rally that will fail, driven by temporary liquidity from debt ceiling issues and oversold conditions.
2 predictions from this thesis
- Bearunverifiable“this Market I mean I've been saying it for the last two weeks or maybe last 10 days that it was imminent that I've been calling it a while E coyote uh Market you know a market that's blithefully went off a cliff and is hanging in midair and just doesn't know it”
- Bearhit$2,600“if you look at uh Gap earnings for the quarter that's just getting reported uh Q4 and you annualize them and you put a 16 multiple on them which is pretty freaking reasonable for uh you know five percent rate declining earnings Market which environment which we're in that puts the s p like in the 2600s”
BearishTesla and the Cult of Elon Musk. Are We Seeing a Bursting Bubble in Tech? | Mark SpiegelApr 15, 2018
Macro top call: Mark thinks the January 2018 high was the peak for the broader economy and equity markets. Central-bank liquidity withdrawal is the driver — Fed already taking tens of billions/month off the balance sheet, ECB wind-down ending September 2018. Without the money-printing tailwind, current valuations (highest in history by several multi-decade measures, Shiller P/E in low 30s, second-biggest bubble after 1999) can't be sustained. Position-backed short.
1 prediction from this thesis
NVDA1 narrative
BearishMark Spiegel from Stanphyl CapitalOct 15, 2025
Mark Spiegel believes NVIDIA's high margins are unsustainable as competitors like Amazon and AMD target their market share. He views the stock as expensive and notes the CEO's consistent selling as a negative signal.
USDJPY1 narrative
Strongly BearishMark B Spiegel: No Rational Reason to Be Long Tesla Motors StockJun 29, 2017
The Bank of Japan has been printing ~20% of the monetary base per year for ~5 years. Japan's national debt is over 250% of GDP and interest on the debt is already over 9% of the budget at a 1% average rate. At 3% rates, debt service would consume ~28% of the budget — unsustainable. The BOJ will keep printing to cap rates and crash the yen in doing so. This is Mark's 'desert island' set-it-and-forget-it trade, on since late 2012 from ~79.
1 prediction from this thesis
All Predictions (27)
TSLA21 total2 resolved12 unverifiable
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