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Mark Spiegel

Mark Spiegel

Person
Guest speaker — appears on multiple channels

Hit Rate

25%

1 hits, 3 misses

Total Predictions

27

Avg Return

+10.3%

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16

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Theses over time (19)

Grouped by ticker, most-recent thesis first. Reads as the evolution of Mark Spiegel's view on each asset — earlier entries show where they started, later ones show where they landed.

TSLA14 narratives
Strongly BearishIs Mark Spiegel the greatest investment guru of our time? YOU decide!! [Tesla Shorts 024]
Mar 6, 2023
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Mark Spiegel views Tesla as absurdly overvalued at 70 times earnings, arguing the company is losing its technological edge to competitors with better charging speeds and interiors. He believes Tesla's recent massive price cuts will significantly reduce profit margins and that the company faces increasing competition from Chinese automakers and traditional manufacturers like GM.

Strongly BearishDecade Long Asset Bubble to Burst? with Mark Spiegel
Mar 1, 2023
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Mark Spiegel views Tesla as absurdly overvalued at 70x earnings, arguing the company has trailing-edge technology, faces intense competition, and has had to slash prices significantly which will crush margins. He sees the stock as worth only $17-18 per share based on comparison to BMW's valuation.

Strongly BearishMark Spiegel: Bear Market Rally Almost Over? S&P 500 To Fall By Over 30% In Next 18 Months?
Feb 17, 2023
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Spiegel views Tesla as no longer a growth company but a commodity auto producer that slashed prices and profits in half. He expects Tesla to fall to low double digits as competition destroys margins and the growth story is completely busted.

Strongly BearishThe Stock Market Is Stupidly Overvalued | Mark Spiegel
Feb 9, 2023
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Spiegel views Tesla as massively overvalued compared to traditional automakers like BMW. He believes Tesla should be valued similarly to BMW at around $18-19 per share, representing roughly 90% downside from current levels. He sees Tesla as having aged product lines and facing increasing competition from established automakers.

Strongly BearishTesla Meltup With Motorhead and Mark Spiegel
Jan 28, 2023
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Tesla is transitioning from a growth stock to just another car company facing massive margin compression from price cuts and increasing competition. The company will likely see 2023 earnings decline 30%+ from 2022 levels due to 12-15% average price cuts while production only increases 3-5%, eliminating any operating leverage benefits.

Strongly BearishMark Spiegel: Elon Musk is ‘a pathological liar’
Jan 8, 2023
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Tesla is fundamentally overvalued with no meaningful competitive advantages as traditional automakers flood the EV market with subsidized, high-quality alternatives. The company lacks manufacturing expertise and is led by what the speaker calls 'a pathological liar' who has committed securities fraud.

Strongly BearishTesla bear Mark Spiegel of Stanphyl Capital rips into Musk, ARK's Cathie Wood and Fed's Jay Powell
Aug 25, 2021
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Tesla is massively overvalued at a $700 billion market cap, trading at approximately 35 times the valuation per car sold compared to Volkswagen Group. The company will struggle once other automakers flood the EV market, as Tesla won't be able to subsidize EV losses with profitable ICE vehicles like traditional automakers can.

Strongly BullishTesla Short Sellers Gordon Johnson and Mark Spiegel Take Aim at Elon Musk
Jul 9, 2020
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The YouTuber strongly defends Tesla against short sellers, arguing that Tesla is becoming profitable with leverage after reaching break-even, has strong delivery growth despite pandemic disruptions, and will benefit from the Model Y launch and China factory production. They believe Tesla will achieve record deliveries and profits in Q3/Q4 2020.

Strongly BearishMAS Ep. 30: A vocal Tesla critic on why it’s only going to get worse…
Jan 21, 2019
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Q3 2018 will be Tesla's peak quarter: the long-range rear-wheel-drive Model 3 backlog is running out within the first month of Q4, the promised $35K Model 3 won't exist at that price (best case $40K with mandatory premium package, gross margin collapses as tax credits expire), and luxury-EV competition (Jaguar I-Pace, Audi e-tron, Kia/Hyundai crossovers) is hitting showrooms at or below Tesla's ASPs. Under any car-company multiple, the debt wall of ~$10B leaves zero equity value. Musk can't abide by the SEC agreement and will detonate further. Goes broke quickly (can't refinance) or slowly (busted growth story, auto-maker multiple).

Strongly BearishWhitney Tilson & Mark Spiegel discuss Tesla, Kase Learning seminar, 9/27/18
Sep 28, 2018
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The SEC just filed fraud charges against Musk over the $420 take-private tweet, no investment bank will raise capital for Tesla given billions in civil-lawsuit liability, Model 3 is a lemon with reliability 4x worse than the next-worst car, and the whole company is dependent on free money in a rising-rate environment. Death-spiral puts at $150 and $100, June 2020 $200 puts, and short common make up the position. Odds of bankruptcy filing in the next year: 80%+.

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SPY3 narratives
BearishMark Spiegel from Stanphyl Capital
Oct 15, 2025
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Mark Spiegel views the current market as either very expensive or in a bubble, with no debate about it being cheap. He advocates for cash positions and maintains short positions in SPY due to fundamental overvaluation concerns.

Strongly BearishMark Spiegel: Bear Market Rally Almost Over? S&P 500 To Fall By Over 30% In Next 18 Months?
Feb 17, 2023
BearishTesla and the Cult of Elon Musk. Are We Seeing a Bursting Bubble in Tech? | Mark Spiegel
Apr 15, 2018
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Macro top call: Mark thinks the January 2018 high was the peak for the broader economy and equity markets. Central-bank liquidity withdrawal is the driver — Fed already taking tens of billions/month off the balance sheet, ECB wind-down ending September 2018. Without the money-printing tailwind, current valuations (highest in history by several multi-decade measures, Shiller P/E in low 30s, second-biggest bubble after 1999) can't be sustained. Position-backed short.

NVDA1 narrative
BearishMark Spiegel from Stanphyl Capital
Oct 15, 2025
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Mark Spiegel believes NVIDIA's high margins are unsustainable as competitors like Amazon and AMD target their market share. He views the stock as expensive and notes the CEO's consistent selling as a negative signal.

USDJPY1 narrative
Strongly BearishMark B Spiegel: No Rational Reason to Be Long Tesla Motors Stock
Jun 29, 2017
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The Bank of Japan has been printing ~20% of the monetary base per year for ~5 years. Japan's national debt is over 250% of GDP and interest on the debt is already over 9% of the budget at a 1% average rate. At 3% rates, debt service would consume ~28% of the budget — unsustainable. The BOJ will keep printing to cap rates and crash the yen in doing so. This is Mark's 'desert island' set-it-and-forget-it trade, on since late 2012 from ~79.

All Predictions (27)

TSLA21 total2 resolved12 unverifiable
Bear$6.67I'd say it's 90% that this stock trades under $100 within the next yearmissSep 28, 2018Bear$2I've never been more sure of anything in my life that this thing is gonna be way down by ninety percent within twelve monthsmissSep 23, 2018Bear$17Tesla you know you know last day look BMW was it was 60 billion euros or something it's got 3.2 billion shares outstanding so you're looking at I don't know 17 a share are you [ __ ] [ __ ] maybe I mean that's what that's what the damn thing is generously worthexpiredMar 6, 2023Bear$17so you're looking at I don't know 17 a share maybe I mean that's what that's what the damn thing is generously worth because it's not really growing much anymoreexpiredMar 1, 2023Bear$18if Tesla sold at six times earnings which it should because it's like any other freaking car maker and it earns three dollars this year that would be 18 a shareexpiredFeb 17, 2023Bear$18.50BMW has a market cap now of I think about 60 billion hold on one second let me let me look it up live hang on yeah roughly 60 billion US Dollars okay Tesla has over 3 billion shares outstanding roughly 3.15 billion if Tesla were valued the way BMW is it would sell for around 18 or 19 a share so and by the way that's only if the Tesla financials were legit which I think they're notexpiredFeb 9, 2023Bear$20fundamentally this stock is worth less than twenty dollars a share and by the way at fifteen dollars at twenty dollars a share it would still have a 60 something billion dollar market cap which is probably absurdexpiredJan 28, 2023Bear$11.67my target is maybe 30 40expiredNov 17, 2021Bear$13.3320 times two dollars would make it a 40 stock right it's now 707 right so what is that you know there's there's probably 95 downside or something in this stock before it gets a very generous valuationexpiredAug 25, 2021BearTesla will be lucky to earn three dollars a share Gap this year I'm pretty sure it's going to be in the two handlesunverifiableJan 28, 2023BearI also have no doubt that Tesla Gap earnings this year 2023 will be at least 30 percent lower than 2022's earningsunverifiableJan 28, 2023BearTesla's going to get crushed Tesla had this window of being having essentially a monopoly on luxury electric cars and it still couldn't make money and now that window is slamming shutunverifiableJan 8, 2023Bullit looks like towards the second half of the year it's possible Tesla starts to look cheap again even at $1400 per shareunverifiableJul 9, 2020BullI think when Tesla reports the current quarterly results they will likely be profitable for this quarter and for the last four quarters so spiegel statement here won't age very well starting in about two weeks then by the end of the year I think Tesla will be quite profitableunverifiableJul 9, 2020Bearat a p/e of 25 on four hundred million ten billion dollars that's the debt it leaves zero value for the equityunverifiableJan 21, 2019Bearthis is really as good as it gets in terms of profitability and probably deliveriesunverifiableJan 21, 2019Bearbankruptcy filing out on the next year or something like that you know very very very high... 80%unverifiableSep 28, 2018Bearthese other cars will be in the showrooms between now and next year and by the middle of 2020 everybody's gonna see what's going onunverifiableSep 23, 2018Bearthe incumbents are gonna destroy TeslaunverifiableAug 6, 2018Bearthere are three broad reasons why the equity in Tesla is worth zerounverifiableMay 15, 2018

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