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Mark SpiegelMark Spiegel
“Tesla will be lucky to earn three dollars a share Gap this year I'm pretty sure it's going to be in the two handles”@ 10:39 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗

Thesis at the time

Strongly Bearish

Tesla is transitioning from a growth stock to just another car company facing massive margin compression from price cuts and increasing competition. The company will likely see 2023 earnings decline 30%+ from 2022 levels due to 12-15% average price cuts while production only increases 3-5%, eliminating any operating leverage benefits.

Key arguments

  • Price cuts of 12-15% on average will directly impact gross margins from ~25% to potentially 13% or lower
  • Production guidance of 1.8M units represents only 3-5% growth over Q4 annualized rate, providing no meaningful economies of scale
  • Competition from Korean EVs (Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5), Ford Mach-E, and BMW i4 is intensifying with better build quality
  • China factory profits at risk due to market saturation and local competition from NIO, XPeng, BYD
  • FSD is a liability that may face regulatory recall, potentially costing billions in refunds
  • Used Tesla prices down 20% while overall used car market only down 4-5%

Counter-arguments acknowledged

  • IRA tax credits could provide some margin support
  • Demand surge from price cuts shows price elasticity exists
  • New factories in Austin and Berlin could eventually provide scale benefits

Hedges and caveats (from the video)

  • Mark Spiegel maintains long-standing negative views on the market
  • Discussion acknowledges this could be a temporary dislocation or disconnect
  • Historical comparison to 2001 NASDAQ rally followed by continued decline used as cautionary example
  • Hosts note they invited Tesla bulls but they couldn't attend, indicating incomplete perspective

The call

Date said
Jan 28, 2023
Timeframe
this year
Deadline
Dec 31, 2023
Price at prediction
$177.90
Confidence
high
Specificity
specific

How it resolved

Status
unverifiable
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
Reference price
$177.90 (anchored at quote date)
Target used
—
Deadline source
Explicit (extracted from quote)
Effective: Dec 31, 2023
Age at resolution
43.8 months(from publish date)

Full rules: docs/resolution-spec.md.

Confidence Reasoning

Specific EPS range with high confidence language

Source

Tesla Meltup With Motorhead and Mark Spiegel
Said on Jan 28, 2023@ 10:39Open on YouTube ↗
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